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December, 2023

Season 5, Episode 07—Robots! Live Show!!

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This is TOF’s second Live Show. The first one was a celebration of their 50th episode, and had the theme of Time Travel. This live show is all robots. Each season TOF will host a live show.

This show was recorded on Tuesday, December 19th, from 8 pm – 9:30 pm, Eastern Time. 13 or 14 or so attended the event, including five previous guests: Sandra Kasturi; Ira Nayman; Robert J. Sawyer; Jerome Stueart; and, Maaja Wentz.

Dan Miwa attended, and will be a guest for our forthcoming Spaceballs episode, that will be released on May 4th, 2024. He talks a bit about the film during this episode.

Stephen Humphrey attended, and is a forthcoming guest, and we will be looking at Neuromancer, likely in March of 2024.

David and Troy reveal their top ten robots.

Some discussion of what a robot and an android are. What counts as a robot and what does not.

Some of the robots mentioned in this episode include:

Robots from Six Million Dollar Man and Bionic Woman.
GORT from The Day the Earth Stood Still.
Huey, Dewey, and Louie from Silent Running.
Robocop – does not count – a cyborg.
The Cylons from Battlestar Galactica.
Robot from the Let’s Kill Hitler episode of Dr. Who.
Sandra recommends the flesh robots from
Weird #66: “In the Hills, The Cities” by Clive Barker (1984)
Marvin the paranoid android from The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy.
Nomad from Star Trek.
Twiki from Buck Rogers in the 25th Century.
Promo the Robot from Rocketship 7.
Hymie the robot from Get Smart.
The robot from Metropolis.
Mechagodzilla and Mechani-Kong.
Dolores from Westworld.
The Terminator from The Terminator.
Robbie the Robot from Lost in Space.
K9 from Doctor Who.
Rover from The Prisoner.
No. 6 (played by Tricia Helfer) from BSG.
The Daggit from the original BSG
Ash, and other androids from the Alien movie franchise.
The Nazi scientist (Karl Ruprecht Kroenen) in Hellboy.
The Major from Ghost in the Shell.
The replicants from Blade Runner.
The Tin Man from The Wizard of Oz.
Proteus from Demon Seed.
Data from Star Trek: The Next Generation.
The Iron Giant.
C3P0 and R2D2 from Star Wars.
Brainiac, Vision, and Red Tornado.
Bender from Futurama
Dot Matrix from Space Balls.
Minsky from Fargo, season 3.
Martha Wells Murder Bot Diaries.

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Season 5, Episode 06—Religion

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TOF tackles the subject of religion, how it relates to genre, mostly movies and TV, mostly a Christian perspective. Religion is such a large topic, that it is hard to do it justice in one episode. We only have time to cover a few things.

Jerome Stueart joins Troy and David for the episode. As a first time guest, we ask Jerome his first experiences with the speculative genre, and what he fell in love with. David also asks him what was the first genre thing he fell in love with. And Troy asks Jerome what his all-time faves are, in the 6 categories we ask now, which are: Favorite genre author, novel, shorter work, movie, TV show, TV episode.

Troy does a short introduction of religion.

Some of the things covered:

The Chronicles of Narnia
The Exorcist
Deep Space 9
Mazes and Monsters
Children of Men
5th Element
Field of Dreams
The bible as fantasy novel
The Book of Job
God Game
The Matrix
Carl Jung’s Synchronicity
Battle Star Galactica (BSG)

This is our holiday episode, and part of what is also discussed, the idea of faith and religion as vehicles of hope, compassion. social justice, and caring for the poor. That loving each other is the message. And, how religion and fantasy work so well together. How faith may give you reasons to be compassionate. The question of what if, why is this happening, closure, grief, meaning, and purpose.

TOF will hopefully return to the topic of religion, do a deeper dive, and cover other creation myths, the darker side of religion (covered briefly in this episode), Disc World, A Canticle for Leibowitz, the Sparrow, The Handmaid’s Tale, and much more.

Jerome Stueart is a gay writer and artist whose writing has appeared in F&SF, Fantasy,, Geist, Strange Horizons, On Spec, and several Tesseracts anthologies.

In 2020 he was a finalist for the World Fantasy Award in Short Fiction. His work is often found at the intersection of science fiction, fantasy, and faith.  As co-editor of the 2015 anthology Wrestling with Gods (Tesseracts 18), he asked others to explore that same intersection.

Stueart lived for nearly a decade in the Yukon, but now lives, writes, and paints in Dayton, Ohio, as well as working in a café bakery.

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Season 5, Episode 05—Dr. Strangelove

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Dr. Strangelove is the granddaddy of all satirical movies. A great cast contributes to the story of a bomber crew being ordered to drop the bomb on the Russians. The order did not come from the President. It came from Jack D. Ripper, the commander of Burpelson Air Force Base, who exceeded his authority. He also seems to be overly concerned with bodily fluids, his essence, and fluoridation.

Peter Sellers leads a great cast. He plays three roles: Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake; President Merkin Muffley; and, Dr. Strangelove. He is wonderful in each role.

Troy Harkin and David Clink, the “Two Old Farts,” are joined by Ira Nayman, whom Troy and David refer to as The Third Fart.

Ira is the only guest who has appeared in all five season.

Ira is the second guest to have appeared in five episodes, joining Bev Vincent as part of “The Farty Five” or a proud member of “The Fart-Timer’s Club.”

When it comes to Dream Casting, and the Schrodinger’s Cast, Ira, Troy and David try to recast Peter Sellers, with the best possible alternative (Dream Cast) and an unusual, outside the box choice (Schrödinger’s Cast).

Character(s)Original Star
Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake
President Merkin Muffley
Dr. Strangelove
Peter Sellers

Ira Nayman writes humour under the name, Ira Nayman.

The Ugly Truth, his 8th novel with Elsewhen Press, was published in June, 2022.

His two dozenth published short story, “Girls Rule the Steampunk World” appeared in Brave New Girls: Chronicles of Misses and Machines.

In September, 2022, Ira celebrated the 20th anniversary of the weekly publication of Les Pages aux Folles, his web site of political and social satire.

Ira was our guest for four previous episodes:

The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy
The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai
Mystery Men
Twiddle Twaddle

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