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Special Announcement—TOF on Hiatus Until December 2022


TOF will return in December 2022


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Troy and David will be taking a much needed break, and will work in 2-month breaks between seasons down the road.

Their last show was the last episode of season 3, their Top Ten Horror films, dropped on Oct 29, 2022.

At the moment the plan is to return on December 24, 2022, season 4 episode 1, to look at “A Christmas Carol.” The season would end in June 2023, and season 5 would begin in September 2023.

Troy and David appreciate the support of our one listener, Ted from Lindsay, and hope to double our listenership in 2023.

For those Canadian fans that vote for the Aurora Awards, the podcast can be nominated in the Related category. We missed the final ballot by one vote in 2022 (for the work done in 2021), and hope that it can make the final ballot in 2023 (for our 2022 episodes).

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Season 3, Episode 14—Troy and David’s Top Ten Horror Films


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Troy and David come up with an agreed upon list, what they think, collectively, are the top ten horror films of all time. They will also go into what did not make the list. On their previous lists, for top SF films and top fantasy films, they had their own top ten lists, and compared them. This time, this is one list.

There have been a lot of great horror films over the years, so it is difficult to come up with a list – this is very subjective.

Early horror classics are notably missing.
Movies from the last 10-20 years did not make the list.
Movies from outside the US, Canada, and the UK did not make the list.

Troy is a fan of the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and that did not make it.

David is a fan of the original Invasion of the Body Snatchers, and that did not make it.

South Korea and Japan are notable for having had a number of great horror films. There are two Japanese films that have become classics of the genre, and were remade. The remakes were very good on their own, but do not, in our humble opinion, reach the greatness of the originals..

Ringu (Japan 1998) = 7.2 IMDB rating
The Ring (US – 2002) = 7.1 IMDB rating

Ju-On: The Grudge (Japan 2002) = 6.7 IMDB rating
The Grudge (US – 2004) = 5.9 IMDB rating

When it comes to South Korea, the top five South Korean horror movies, according to Rotten Tomatoes, are:
[https://editorial.rottentomatoes.com/guide/best-korean-horror-movies/]

#5 = GONJIAM: HAUNTED ASYLUM (2018) 91%
#4 = THE HOST (2006) 93%
#3 = TRAIN TO BUSAN (2016) 94%
#2 = THE WAILING (2016) 99%
#1 = SEOUL STATION (2016) 100%

Troy and David will do a deep dive on international horror films in a future podcast episode. There are horror films that have been produced in almost every continent, in many countries throughout the world, and these should be looked at in more detail, on another show.


The LA Film School has a list of the ten subgenres within horror:

10 SUBGENRES OF HORROR FILMS EXPLAINED
https://www.lafilm.edu/blog/subgenres-of-horror-films-explained/

Demonic Possession (The Exorcist)
Paranormal (Paranormal Activity)
Monster (Frankenstein)
Slasher (Halloween)
Zombie (Night of the Living Dead)
Gore / Splatter (The Evil Dead)
Witchcraft (The Witch)
Vampire (Interview with a Vampire)
Psychological (The Shining)
Comedic (Shaun of the Dead)

With just 10 films in Troy and David’s top ten, some of these categories may have more than one entry in the final list, and some will be missing entirely.

This is the last episode of season 3, and we quickly review the season, at the end of the episode.

We look forward to season 4, after a short break, and the first episode should be available on Saturday, December 24, 2022.


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Season 3, Episode 13—Stephen King: A Complete Exploration of His Work, Life, and Influences by Bev Vincent – pt. 3 (2000 – 2022)


Bev Vincent’s new book, published September 13, 2022
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We are celebrating the 75th birthday of Stephen King with Bev Vincent’s wonderful new book from Epic Ink, Stephen King: A Complete Exploration of His Work, Life, and Influences. 

Our three part series splits up Bev’s six chapters, so we will look at two chapters in each episode.

PT 1 covers 1950 – 1979:

CHAPTER 1: The Future Artist as a Young Man (1950-1969)
CHAPTER 2: The Doubleday Years (1970s)

PT 2 covers 1980 – 1999:

CHAPTER 3: Midas Touch (1980s)
CHAPTER 4: Experimentation and Change (1990s)

PT 3 covers 2000 – 2022:

CHAPTER 5: After the Accident (2000s)
CHAPTER 6: King of Crime (2010 and beyond)



Bev Vincent

Bev Vincent’s latest work is: Stephen King: A Complete Exploration of His Work, Life, and Influences. 

Bev is also the author of The Dark Tower Companion, The Road to the Dark Tower, and the Stephen King Illustrated Companion.

In 2018 he co-edited the anthology Flight or Fright with Stephen King. He is the author of the Ogilvie Affair and co-author of Dissonant Harmonies.

His short fiction has appeared in places such as Ellery Queen’s Mystery Magazine, Alfred Hitchcock’s Mystery Magazine, Borderlands 5, Ice Cold, and The Blue Religion.

With this appearance Bev joins the Three Timers Club, if you will. The Hat Trick Union. 

Bev was our season one, episode seven podcast guest on: The Dead Zone;
and our season two, episode four podcast on:
On Writing.


Listen to the 2of podcast online, or download the episode to your computer using the Download icon!

Season 3, Episode 12—Stephen King: A Complete Exploration of His Work, Life, and Influences by Bev Vincent – pt. 2 (1980 – 1999)


Bev Vincent’s new book, published September 13, 2022
“no copyright infringement is intended”



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“No Copyright Infringement Intended”

“No Copyright Infringement Intended”

We are celebrating the 75th birthday of Stephen King with Bev Vincent’s wonderful new book from Epic Ink, Stephen King: A Complete Exploration of His Work, Life, and Influences. 

Our three part series splits up Bev’s six chapters, so we will look at two chapters in each episode.

PT 1 covers 1950 – 1979:

CHAPTER 1: The Future Artist as a Young Man (1950-1969)
CHAPTER 2: The Doubleday Years (1970s)

PT 2 covers 1980 – 1999:

CHAPTER 3: Midas Touch (1980s)
CHAPTER 4: Experimentation and Change (1990s)

PT 3 covers 2000 – 2022:

CHAPTER 5: After the Accident (2000s)
CHAPTER 6: King of Crime (2010 and beyond)



Bev Vincent

Bev Vincent’s latest work is: Stephen King: A Complete Exploration of His Work, Life, and Influences. 

Bev is also the author of The Dark Tower Companion, The Road to the Dark Tower, and the Stephen King Illustrated Companion.

In 2018 he co-edited the anthology Flight or Fright with Stephen King. He is the author of the Ogilvie Affair and co-author of Dissonant Harmonies.

His short fiction has appeared in places such as Ellery Queen’s Mystery Magazine, Alfred Hitchcock’s Mystery Magazine, Borderlands 5, Ice Cold, and The Blue Religion.

With this appearance Bev joins the Three Timers Club, if you will. The Hat Trick Union. 

Bev was our season one, episode seven podcast guest on: The Dead Zone;
and our season two, episode four podcast on:
On Writing.


Listen to the 2of podcast online, or download the episode to your computer using the Download icon!

Season 3, Episode 11—Stephen King: A Complete Exploration of His Work, Life, and Influences by Bev Vincent – pt. 1 (1950-1979)


Bev Vincent’s new book, published September 13, 2022
“no copyright infringement is intended”



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We are celebrating the 75th birthday of Stephen King with Bev Vincent’s wonderful new book from Epic Ink, Stephen King: A Complete Exploration of His Work, Life, and Influences. 

Our three part series splits up Bev’s six chapters, so we will look at two chapters in each episode.

PT 1 covers 1950 – 1979:

CHAPTER 1: The Future Artist as a Young Man (1950-1969)
CHAPTER 2: The Doubleday Years (1970s)

PT 2 covers 1980 – 1999:

CHAPTER 3: Midas Touch (1980s)
CHAPTER 4: Experimentation and Change (1990s)

PT 3 covers 2000 – 2022:

CHAPTER 5: After the Accident (2000s)
CHAPTER 6: King of Crime (2010 and beyond)



Bev Vincent

Bev Vincent’s latest work is: Stephen King: A Complete Exploration of His Work, Life, and Influences. 

Bev is also the author of The Dark Tower Companion, The Road to the Dark Tower, and the Stephen King Illustrated Companion.

In 2018 he co-edited the anthology Flight or Fright with Stephen King. He is the author of the Ogilvie Affair and co-author of Dissonant Harmonies.

His short fiction has appeared in places such as Ellery Queen’s Mystery Magazine, Alfred Hitchcock’s Mystery Magazine, Borderlands 5, Ice Cold, and The Blue Religion.

With this appearance Bev joins the Three Timers Club, if you will. The Hat Trick Union. 

Bev was our season one, episode seven podcast guest on: The Dead Zone;
and our season two, episode four podcast on:
On Writing.


Listen to the 2of podcast online, or download the episode to your computer using the Download icon!

Season 3, Episode 10—”Saturday Morning Cartoons”


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Saturday Morning Cartoons is a term referred to the line-up of cartoons that ran Saturday mornings in the 1960s, 1970s, 1980s and 1990s.

Generally these were animated, and many were genre (science fiction, fantasy or horror).

Scooby Doo and The Jetsons were two such shows that were popular. Jonny Quest was another such show. Many remember fondly Spiderman and Rocket Robinhood, despite the poor quality graphics, the backgrounds that were used and reused and reused.

Star Trek had an animated series, that “bridged” (pardon the pun) the gap between the classic series from the 60s and the first motion picture in 1979.

What were your favorites?

The Flintstones? Top Cat? The Jetsons? Jonny Quest?
Beany and Cecil? Masters of the Universe?
Jem and the Holograms? Thundercats?

Do you remember…

Tarzan, Lord of the Jungle? Return to the Planet of the Apes?
Speed Buggy? Jabberjaw?

And do you remember some of the live action series…

Shazam! (with animated sequences)?
The Secret of Isis? Jason of Star Command?

Join Troy Harkin and David Clink as they recall the many shows that comprised the Saturday mornings of our childhood. Maybe some of your faves will be mentioned.!





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Season 3, Episode 9—”Mystery Men”


MYSTERY MEN
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Lena Olin “Dr. Anabel Leek”
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Paul Reubens (Spleen); Tom Waits (Doc Heller); and Janeane Garofalo (Bowler)
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Greg Kinnear as Captain Amazing / Lance
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Mystery Men was a film released in 1999. It is based on a comic book series (1939-1942), and more of a direct connection from a comic book series in the 1980s. From the web site….
http://20yearsb42000.blogspot.com/2021/01/a-brief-history-of-mystery-men.html
“In 1987 the Mystery men made their debut in Flaming Carrot comics #16. This band of unreal heroes was brought together, well because no one else wanted them. Their powers are weird, their tempers are high and their clothing choices are questionable, but that never stopped them from trying to save the world. The roster has included such classic characters as The Shoveler, Mr. Furious, Screwball, Bondo man and The Spleen to name a few.”
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For those who have seen the film, they either think it is a great film or a not-so great film. That phrase, “You either love it or you hate it” was never more applicable. The most notable character appearing in The Dark Horse comic “Mystery Men” created by Bob Burden that was not included in the movie was “The Flaming Carrot.”

So, why watch the 1999 movie?

Because, you may be one of those that absolutely loves it. The main cast and supporting cast are terrific.

Cast (in credits order – from IMDB)

Hank Azaria … Blue Raja / Jeff
Janeane Garofalo … Bowler
William H. Macy … Shoveler / Eddy
Kel Mitchell … Invisible Boy
Paul Reubens … Spleen
Ben Stiller … Furious / Roy
Wes Studi … Sphinx
Greg Kinnear … Captain Amazing / Lance
Geoffrey Rush … Casanova Frankenstein
Lena Olin … Dr. Anabel Leek
Eddie Izzard … Tony P
Artie Lange … Big Red
Pras Michel … Tony C (as Prakazrel Michel)
Claire Forlani … Monica
Tom Waits … Doc Heller
Louise Lasser … Violet
Ricky Jay … Vic Weems
Jenifer Lewis … Lucille

Beyond the cast, there are moments of hilarity. If you are someone who likes the reviewing of Roger Ebert, he recognized its brilliance, but was also aware of its failings:

“Mystery Men” has moments of brilliance waving their arms to attract attention in a sea of dreck. = Roger Ebert
https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/mystery-men-1999

Ira Nayman joins Troy and David as their special guest for this episode. Please see his bio below. Ira has made an appearance on TOF in each of its three seasons, and is affectionately known as “The Third Fart.”

ALSO:

Troy and David and Ira will look at recasting the film, with a “Dream Cast” = the best actor or actress, living or dead, to play the roles; and a “Schrodinger’s Cast” = unusual casting. Please note that David mentions three films that have won all four Oscars for Best Film; Best Director; Best Actor; and Best Actress, and he made a mistake. The three films that won all those awards are: It Happened One Night; One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest; and The Silence of the Lambs. David mistakenly put in “As Good As It Gets” instead of Cuckoo’s Nest. His excuse: “We are all getting old.” As Good As It Gets won both feature actor categories (Jack Nicholson and Helen Hunt), but best film and best director were both won by Titanic.


Ira Nayman
AKA: The Third Fart

Ira Nayman writes humour featuring a heavy dose of satire.

The Ugly Truth, his 8th novel with Elsewhen Press, was published in June, 2022.

His two dozenth published short story, “Girls Rule the Steampunk World” appeared in Brave New Girls: Chronicles of Misses and Machines.

In September, 2022, Ira will be celebrating the 20th anniversary of the weekly publication of Les Pages aux Folles, his web site of political and social satire.

Ira was our guest for two previous episodes:

season one, episode five podcast:
The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy

season two, episode eleven podcast:
The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai
Across the 8th Dimension
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Season 3, Episode 8—”Galactic Rock – pt.3″


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Troy Harkin and David Clink (and Lee McCormack) look at Galactic Rock. This three-part series delves into Rock ‘n’ Roll that is “out there” and perhaps even “out of this world” including things that are science fiction, fantasy, horror, and their mashups and subgenres, and will delve into science and space, from the beginnings to present day.

Were you a fan of…

Space Oddity and Star Man (both by David Bowie)
Monster Mash (by Bobby Pickett)
Theme From The Munsters (by Jack Marshall)
The Lonely Man Theme [often referred to as “The Hulk walking away music”] (by Joe Harnell)
The Purple People Eater by Sheb Wooley

Listen in as we look at these songs and much more.

Be sure to check out the entire series:
pt. 1 (available beginning July 9, 2022)
pt. 2 (available beginning July 23, 2022)
pt. 3 (available beginning August 6, 2022)

Troy and David’s special guest for this series is Lee McCormack.
Please see his bio below.

ALSO:

Be sure to check out our Spotify playlist: “Galactic Rock (TOF)”

It includes every song that we mention in our three-part series and many more. It is ten hours long! Shuffle away!


Lee McCormack

Lee McCormack is a Canadian multi-instrumentalist, songwriter, and podcaster.

As a musician he has played in Malhavoc. He’s headed up professional tributes to Johnny Cash, and The Clash. He has also played drums as Ringo in various Beatles tribute bands. In addition to this he’s recorded his own material at the legendary Sun Record studio in Memphis, Tennessee. In 2020 he released the single “Train to Heartbreak” backed with “Every Night’s A Saturday Night”.

Lee has been the host and producer of Tramps Like Us, a Bruce Springsteen podcast, since 2016.


Listen to the 2of podcast online, or download the episode to your computer using the Download icon!

Season 3, Episode 7—”Galactic Rock – pt.2″


Troy Harkin and David Clink (and Lee McCormack) look at Galactic Rock. This three-part series delves into Rock ‘n’ Roll that is “out there” and perhaps even “out of this world” including things that are science fiction, fantasy, horror, and their mashups and subgenres, and will delve into science and space, from the beginnings to present day.


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Troy Harkin and David Clink (and Lee McCormack) look at Galactic Rock. This three-part series delves into Rock ‘n’ Roll that is “out there” and perhaps even “out of this world” including things that are science fiction, fantasy, horror, and their mashups and subgenres, and will delve into science and space, from the beginnings to present day.

Were you a fan of…

Space Oddity and Star Man (both by David Bowie)
Monster Mash (by Bobby Pickett)
Theme From The Munsters (by Jack Marshall)
The Lonely Man Theme [often referred to as “The Hulk walking away music”] (by Joe Harnell)
The Purple People Eater by Sheb Wooley

Listen in as we look at these songs and much more.

Be sure to check out the entire series:
pt. 1 (available beginning July 9, 2022)
pt. 2 (available beginning July 23, 2022)
pt. 3 (available beginning August 6, 2022)

Troy and David’s special guest for this series is Lee McCormack.
Please see his bio below.

ALSO:

Be sure to check out our Spotify playlist: “Galactic Rock (TOF)”

It includes every song that we mention in our three-part series and many more. It is ten hours long! Shuffle away!



Lee McCormack BIO

Lee McCormack is a Canadian multi-instrumentalist, songwriter, and podcaster.

As a musician he has played in Malhavoc. He’s headed up professional tributes to Johnny Cash, and The Clash. He has also played drums as Ringo in various Beatles tribute bands. In addition to this he’s recorded his own material at the legendary Sun Record studio in Memphis, Tennessee. In 2020 he released the single “Train to Heartbreak” backed with “Every Night’s A Saturday Night”.

Lee has been the host and producer of Tramps Like Us, a Bruce Springsteen podcast, since 2016.


Listen to the 2of podcast online, or download the episode to your computer using the Download icon!

Season 3, Episode 6—”Galactic Rock – pt.1″


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Troy Harkin and David Clink (and Lee McCormack) look at Galactic Rock. This three-part series delves into Rock ‘n’ Roll that is “out there” and perhaps even “out of this world” including things that are science fiction, fantasy, horror, and their mashups and subgenres, and will delve into science and space, from the beginnings to present day.

Were you a fan of…

Space Oddity and Star Man (both by David Bowie)
Monster Mash (by Bobby Pickett)
Theme From The Munsters (by Jack Marshall)
The Lonely Man Theme [often referred to as “The Hulk walking away music”] (by Joe Harnell)
The Purple People Eater by Sheb Wooley

Listen in as we look at these songs and much more.

Be sure to check out the entire series:
pt. 1 (available beginning July 9, 2022)
pt. 2 (available beginning July 23, 2022)
pt. 3 (available beginning August 6, 2022)

Troy and David’s special guest for this series is Lee McCormack.
Please see his bio below.

ALSO:

Be sure to check out our Spotify playlist: “Galactic Rock (TOF)”

It includes every song that we mention in our three-part series and many more. It is ten hours long! Shuffle away!


Lee McCormack BIO

Lee McCormack is a Canadian multi-instrumentalist, songwriter, and podcaster.

As a musician he has played in Malhavoc. He’s headed up professional tributes to Johnny Cash, and The Clash. He has also played drums as Ringo in various Beatles tribute bands. In addition to this he’s recorded his own material at the legendary Sun Record studio in Memphis, Tennessee. In 2020 he released the single “Train to Heartbreak” backed with “Every Night’s A Saturday Night”.

Lee has been the host and producer of Tramps Like Us, a Bruce Springsteen podcast, since 2016.


Listen to the 2of podcast online, or download the episode to your computer using the Download icon!

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