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Season 7, Episode 04—Troy and David’s Top Ten SFFH TV Shows of the 21st Century


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Troy and David come up with their top ten SFFH TV Shows of the 21st century (3rd Millennium). TV shows from the years 2001 – 2025 are considered.

How many TV shows will be on both lists? How many will be Science Fiction? Fantasy? Horror? How many will belong to more than one genre?

And, will Troy be able to sneak in a Beatles reference?

Listen to find out.

Season 7 is our ALL MOVIE season. New episodes usually the last day of the month.


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Season 7, Episode 03—Troy and David’s Top Ten SFFH Movies of the 21st Century


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Troy and David come up with their top ten SFFH films of the 21st century (3rd Millennium). Films from the years 2001 – 2025 are considered.

How many films will be on both lists? How many will be Science Fiction? Fantasy? Horror? How many will belong to more than one genre?

And, will Troy be able to sneak in a Beatles reference?

Listen to find out.

Season 7 is our ALL MOVIE season. New episodes usually the last day of the month.


Listen to the 2of podcast online, or download the episode to your computer using the Download icon!

Season 7, Episode 02—Yellow Submarine


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Yellow Submarine was an animated film featuring The Beatles. It was released in 1968, to fulfill a 3-picture deal, that included A Hard Days Night (1964); Help! (1965).

And like the first two films, this was, in essence, a music-delivery device. It was agreed that the band would supply 4 new songs – All Together Now, Hey Bulldog, It’s All Too Much, and Only A Northern Song – for the film. These new songs would be heard in the film along with 12 other recently released songs, including Nowhere Man, Eleanor Rigby, Yellow Submarine, Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds, When I’m 64, Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band, With A Little Help From My Friends, and All You Need Is Love . Beatles producer George Martin would provide the score.

“And what was that story? In a nut shell, Pepperland, an open, peace-loving land, comes under attack by a fascist, militaristic group known as the Blue Meanies. Fred, is sent by the Lord Mayor, in the Yellow Submarine to enlist help. The Sub ends up in Liverpool England where Fred finds Ringo and the other Beatles. After travelling over various psychedelic lands and seas The Band returns to Pepperland (with Jeremy, a Boob they’ve picked up along the way) to confront the Blue Meanies.

All told, over 200 animators worked on the film in the TVC offices in Soho.”

Please listen to hear the rest of the story, and Troy and David’s reactions to their latest re-watch.

Season 7 is our ALL MOVIE season. New episodes usually the last day of the month.


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Season 7, Episode 01—Evil Dead Rise


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The Evil Dead movie franchise is near and dear to the hearts of many horror aficionados. And, you do not have to be a horror fan to like the movies. You can like humour, slapstick, comedy, magic realism and surrealism, abstraction, irrationality, and cabins. And woods. And things in the basement. And in the case of Evil Dead Rise, an urban landscape where people like to park woodchippers in parking garages, you know, just in case. You never know, right.

Our Halloween episode is our first episode of season 7, our first episode since our Wonder Woman episode, back in the Spring of 2025. Season 7 is our ALL MOVIE season. And what better movie franchise to begin with than the Evil Dead franchise.


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Season 6, Episode 14—Wonder Woman (TV Series)


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Wonder Woman introduced Lynda Carter as the comic-book heroine. This live-action series ran for three years, and changed from Season 1 to Season 2, when the show switched networks, and was brought to current day, instead of WWII.

Here is the cast (and the description we used in the episode):

Wonder Woman
(Lynda Carter)
Carter was just 23 years old at the time she was cast for the role. Though she had done almost no acting she was working professionally as a singer, and had done very well competing in beauty pageants. She won the title of Miss World USA 1972.

Major Steve Trevor (season 1)
Steve Trevor Jr (seasons 2 & 3)
(Lyle Waggoner)
In Stanley Ralph Ross’s casting notes on Steve Trevor he wrote: “Get a Lyle Waggoner type.” Douglas Cramer did him one better by getting the actual Lyle Waggoner. Waggoner had been a regular on The Carol Burnett Show. He did a screen test for the 1966 Batman series. He was the first nude centerfold for Playgirl magazine in 1973. He was also elected the mayor of Encino, California in 1976. Waggoner had many guest appearances on television shows such as Fantasy Island, Love Boat, Charlie’s Angels, Happy Days, and Mork & Mindy.

Queen Hippolyta
(Cloris Leachman in the original pilot)
(Carolyn Jones in 3 episodes)
(Beatrice Straight in 2 episodes)
Straight was a Tony and Oscar award-winning actress who played one of the ghostbusters in the original Poltergeist.

General Blankenship
(John Randolph in The New Original Wonder Woman pilot)
(Richard Eastham throughout season 1)

Etta Candy, General Blankenship’s secretary
(Beatrice Colen)

Beatrice Colen had formerly been on Happy Days as one of the carhops at Arnold’s.

The TV Series had a stellar list of Guest Stars, including:
Red Buttons, Stella Stevens, POTA alum Roddy McDowall, Eric Braedon and Severn Darden. Debra Winger, John Saxon, John Hillerman, Robert Reed, Eve Plumb, and Tiger the Dog of the Brady Bunch, Roy Rogers, Wolfman Jack, Lance Kerwin, Bubba Smith, Rick Springfield, Leif Garrett, Craig T Nelson, Gary Burghoff, Frank Gorshin, René Auberjonois, and Robby the Robot!

Troy and David present their, “How it all ends”, by coming up with an ending to the show, as if the show, like MASH, knew it was ending, and had time to be able to end it properly, wrap everything (or most things) up.


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Season 6, Episode 13—Kolchak: The Night Stalker (TV Series)


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Kolchak: The Night Stalker was a series that lasted only one season, the 1974-75 season. Just 20 episodes. Troy and David look at the series, its pilot episode and others, and briefly talk about the two made for TV movies that preceded the TV series: The Night Stalker and The Night Strangler. The TV series, and the two TV movies, influenced a generation of Science Fiction, Fantasy, and Horror fans, including Chris Carter, who brought us The X-Files.

Troy and David open the episode with a short tribute to David Lynch, who had passed away recently.

Back to Kolchak: The Night Stalker (TV Series)
Here is the cast (and the description we used in the episode):

Darren McGavin as Carl Kolchak, 20 episodes.
The intrepid investigative reporter. McGavin had a long career in film and television working steadily from the 1940s onward. Other than Kolchak he is remembered for his roles in The Natural, A Christmas Story, Millennium and The X-Files.

Simon Oakland as Tony Vincenzo, 20 episodes.
Kolchak’s crotchety ulcer-ridden editor. Oakland appeared on both The Twilight Zone and The Outer Limits. He was also in Hitchcock’s Psycho, and West Side Story.

Jack Grinnage as Ron Updyke, 18 episodes.
Another journalist at INS (Carl sometimes calls him “Uptight” instead of Updyke. Updyke looks A LOT like Canadian astronaut Chris Hadfield, doesn’t he? Although this was his biggest recurring role, Grinnage also appeared in Rebel Without A Cause, the Elvis film Kid Creole, as well as on The Twilight Zone.

Ruth McDevitt as Emily Cowles, 12 episodes.
Although Ruth McDevitt was born in 1895 (!!!) her first on-screen role did not come until 1949. Among her long list of film and TV roles, McDevitt appeared in The Birds, The Shakiest Gun in the West, Mame, and on Room 222, Kojack, McCloud and Gunsmoke, before going on to Kolchak: The Night Stalker. She passed away in 1975 at the age of 80.

The TV Series had a stellar list of Guest Stars, including:
Carolyn Jones, Scatman Crothers, Phil Silvers, Stella Stevens, Jim Backus, Jamie Farr, Antonio Fargus, Tom Skerrit, Kathy Lee Crosby and Tom Bosley.

Troy and David present their, “How it all ends”, by coming up with an ending to the show, as if the show, like MASH, knew it was ending, and had time to be able to end it properly, wrap everything (or most things) up.


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Season 6, Episode 12—The Planet of the Apes TV Series


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The Planet of the Apes TV Series premiered in 1974. After the success of the Planet of the Apes movies, a TV series was given the go-ahead. The series lasted one year, and just 14 episodes.

Roddy McDowell was signed on, but playing a different character, Galen. Here is the cast:

Roddy McDowall … Galen = 14 episodes, 1974
Ron Harper … Alan Virdon = 14 episodes, 1974
James Naughton … Pete Burke = 14 episodes, 1974
Mark Lenard … Urko = 11 episodes, 1974
Booth Colman … Zaius = 6 episodes, 1974
Ron Stein … Gorilla Guard / … = 4 episodes, 1974

One of the concerns with the series, and most POTA fans were not happy with, was the appearance of a dog at the beginning of the first episode. From the Conquest of the Planet of the Apes (1972) there was an interstellar disease that eliminated dogs and cats, and that was when humanity started to have apes as pets.

Troy and David look at the pilot episode, and discuss some of the differences in it and the movies, and what are considered its best episodes.


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Season 6, Episode 11—Holiday Extravaganza – TOYS!


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Tory and David recall their favourite genre-related gifts of their childhoods and play some clips of old TV ads because this is TOF’s ALL TV season, AKA, TWO OLD FARTS MEET THE GLASS TEAT.

Stay tuned to the Secret Santa gift exchange, later in the show.

They review some shows they covered this season, and highlight those shows holiday episodes.

The Addams Family.
The Munsters.
Lost in Space.
The Six Million Dollar Man.
Wonder Woman.
Kolchak: the Night Stalker

There were two Wonder Woman Xmas episodes
(TOF will be covering this series in the new year)
(TOF will also be covering Kolchak in the new year)

Genre toys of their youth. Troy and David talk about their holiday memories. What their typical Christmas morning was, including the stalkings.

Troy and David also look at
The Kenner Six Million Dollar Man.
Major Matt Mason.
Superman & Aquaman & Tarzan & Shazaam.
Spiderman and many others.
Action Jackson (and his parachute).
7″ Spock figure.
Robin’s little green shoes.
Batman’s cowl.

The Batmobile.
The Seaview

Troy mentions that if you are a successful show, you were guaranteed to have three things:

1] a lunchbox
2] a viewmaster reel
3] a board game.

David mentions that for this Christmas season there is a “Star Wars Against Humanity” – which is the Cards Against Humanity game, but with a Star Wars.

At the end of the episode, Troy and David reveal the gift that tghey got for each other.


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Season 6, Episode 10—Battlestar Galactica and Buck Rogers in the 25th Century


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There were two SF series in the late 1970s that both had theatrical releases: Battlestar Galactica, and Buck Rogers in the 25th Century. Both were produced by Glen A. Larson. Troy and David look at the theatrical films, and compare and contrast these, and how they fit in with the televised series.

CAST OF BATTLESTAR GALACTICA:

• Richard Hatch as Captain Apollo (Waltons, Love Boat, Kung Fu…)
• Dirk Benedict as Lieutenant Starbuck (A Team)
• Lorne Greene as Commander Adama (CAN) Bonanza, New Wilderness
• John Colicos as Baltar (CAN) (Star Trek, Night Gallery, The Changeling)
• Jane Seymour as Serina (Somewhere in Time, Dr Quinn Med. Woman)
• Rick Springfield as Zak Adama (Jesse’s Girl song, General Hospital)
• Ray Milland as Sire Uri (born 1907! 100s of classic films)
• Maren Jensen as Lieutenant Athena
• Noah Hathaway as Boxey
• Herbert Jefferson Jr. as Lieutenant Boomer
• Tony Swartz as Flight Sergeant Jolly
• Laurette Spang as Cassiopeia (Emergency, Isis, SMDM, Happy Days)
• Terry Carter as Colonel Tigh
• Patrick Macnee as The Imperious Leader / The Narrator
• Anne Lockhart as Lieutenant Sheba (daughter of June Lockhart)

CAST OF BUCK ROGERS IN THE 25TH CENTURY:

Gil Gerrard as Buck Rogers
Erin Grey as Wilma Deering
Tim O’Connor as Dr. Elias Huer
Felix Silla as the body of Twiki
Mel Blanc as the voice of Twiki
Pamela Hensley as Princess Ardala
Henry Silva as Kane
Joseph Wiseman as King Draco
Duke Butler as Tigerman
Caroline Smith as Delta Section

Troy and David talk a bit about the merchandising.

They also do their recurring segment, “How it all ends”
where Troy and David come up with their versions of how series end, especially the shows that were not given a chance to end on their own terms.



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Season 6, Episode 09—The Six Million Dollar Man and The Bionic Woman PT 2


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Two Old Farts Talk Sci Fi continue to look at The Six Million Dollar Man and The Bionic Woman. This is the second of a 2-part episode. And stick to the end, where we have a special bionic treat, where Robert J. Sawyer gives his recommendations on his favourite episodes.

We begin with a recap of PT. 1.

SOME OF THE EPISODES WE LOOK AT

The Return of the Bionic Woman (2-part episode)
Welcome Home Jaimie (2-part episode)
The Secret of Bigfoot (2-part episode)
The Return of Bigfoot (2-part episode)
Bigfoot 5 (1 episode)
Fembots in Las Vegas
Kill Oscar (3-part episode)
One of Our Running Backs is Missing
Sharks

A Bionic Christmas Carol
Deadly Countdown
Bionic Beauty
Doomsday is Tomorrow
Black Magic
Motorcycle Boogie
On the Run

Troy and David talk about all the merchandising of the shows.

They also do their recurring segment, “How it all ends”
where Troy and David come up with their versions of how series end, especially the shows that were not given a chance to end on their own terms.

Troy and David invited SCI-FI Legend Robert J. Sawyer to close out the episode by mentioning his favourite Six Million Dollar Man episodes and TV movies.



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