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Season 5, Episode 08—Valentine’s Special PT 1: Love in the Stephen King Universe

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Our Valentine’s Day Special looks at love in the Stephen King Universe. We have our guests from our Halloween Special, the two who run SK Tours (Stephen King Tours), Jamie Tinker and Jennifer Millar.

This is a 2-part episode.

PT1 will be broadcast on Saturday, Feb 10, 2024.
PT2 will be broadcast on Saturday, Mar 09, 2024.

In between, on Feb 24, will be our Black Superheroes episode with special guest Wayne Brown.

When it comes to love in the Stephen King Universe, there are all kinds of love.

First loves.
The love of family.
Unrequited love.
Adolescent love.
Love in the apocalypse.
The love of a parent for their child.
The love of a fan for her favorite writer.

Troy and David and Jennifer and Jamie go through the books, look at the different kinds of love that exist.

We ask Jennifer and Jamie to talk about their first speculative genre memory, the first genre thing they fell in love with, and their all time faves.

We ask them what their first experience of love in the King universe.

Who would have made the best prom king and queen in the novels of Stephen King? Who were your favorite couples?

Jamie Tinker and Jennifer Millar

Jamie Tinker and Jennifer Millar own and operate SK Tours of Maine out of Bangor. The three hour long tours are an authoritative celebration of Stephen King in general, as well as his fictional town of Derry.

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Season 4, Episode 08—The Big 50th Episode Bash

Our 50th episode!

Troy Harkin (on the left) and David Clink are the genre-loving hosts of the podcast.

Two Old Farts Talk Sci-Fi celebrates their 50th episode in style. A live show, recorded on April 10, 2023. The Theme – TIME TRAVEL!

We had a number of people attend, and there was a time travel quiz, on movies from 1970 – 2023.

Troy plays an acoustic version of the theme.

Listener mail. A Beatle-ism.

And a Dream Cast and Schrodinger’s Cast of people that could have played Troy and David. Who else could of (or should have) been the hosts of this podcast?

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Season 2, Episode 8—”2001: A Space Odyssey – pt.1″

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2001: A Space Odyssey.

This film is arguably the whitest film since Birth of a Nation. White actors playing white astronauts in a white spaceship trying to discover, on board a spaceship called Discovery One, the secrets of a black monolith.

Many consider this the greatest science fiction movie of all-time, despite its lack of diversity.

The movie itself did not get a great reception. Many walked out of the premiere screening. For those who left early, and those who stuck it out to the end, many thought “What the hell was that about?”

Most reviews were harsh.

Stanley Kubrick cut 20 or so minutes from the version of the movie that opened, and over time, the shorter (but still long) film found an audience. The film was far ahead of its time, and, like most films that are revolutionary and cutting edge, people just didn’t get it.

The amazing special effects, that still stand up today, and the classical music, the sets, the story, all added together to make something that many would not soon forget.

Troy and David will look at the movie, and discuss it with two special guests: Mark Askwith and Robert J. Sawyer.

Rob was the special guest for Season 1 Episode 2: Planet of the Apes
Mark was the special guest for Season 1 Episode 4: The Prisoner Series

Troy and David welcome back Mark and Rob, who had both listed 2001: A Space Odyssey as their fave genre movie.

We realized that, with two guests, and a big movie like 2001, we would need two parts to do the movie justice.

In Part 1, Troy and David ask Mark and Rob to provide answers to their favourite genre things that were not asked of them before (over the past year more categories were added), and review their previous answers.

Mark and Rob talk about their first experience seeing the film.

The Dream Casting will look at these roles, played by these actors:

CharacterOriginal Star
Dr. David BowmanKeir Dullea
Dr. Frank PooleGary Lockwood
Dr. Heywood FloydWilliam Sylvester
Dr. Andrei SmyslovLeonard Rossiter
(the chief man-ape)
Daniel Richter
HAL 9000Douglas Rain (as the voice of…)
The Monolith[visual effect]
Star Child[visual effect]

photo by: Amy Pagnotta

Mark Askwith is a writer and Television Producer.

He has covered the Science Fiction genre for over 30 years.

Mark is the creator of the award-winning Prisoners of Gravity, and he is one of the Founding Producers of SPACE, Canada’s National Science Fiction and Fantasy Channel.

He has also produced dozens of half-hour television movie specials, featuring interviews with stars like Tom Hanks, Christian Bale, and Sigourney Weaver.

As well, he has interviewed dozens of scientists and astronauts including Neil Degrasse Tyson, Buzz Aldrin, and Chris Hadfield.

Neil Gaiman called him the Secret Master of Science Fiction. So, I guess that’s no longer a secret.

Photo by Carolyn Clink

Robert J. Sawyer is one of only eight writers in history—and the only Canadian—to win all three of the world’s top awards for best science-fiction novel of the year: the Hugo, the Nebula, and the John W. Campbell Memorial Award.

The ABC TV series FlashForward was based on his novel of the same name.

His latest novel is The Oppenheimer Alternative.

A member of both the Order of Canada and the Canadian Science Fiction and Fantasy Hall of Fame, he lives in Mississauga, Ontario.

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Season 1, Episode 8—”Plan 9 from Outer Space”

Plan 9 from Outer Space, 1959

Plan 9 from Outer Space is considered by many to be one of the worst films of all time. Is it, though? Does it really deserve that distinction? It is not in the list of the 100 lowest rated films in the IMDB database. So why do people think that? It is not listed in the Medved’s The 50 Worst Films of All Time, that was published in 1978, but it is listed as their choice of worst film in their book, The Golden Turkey Awards, published in 1980. Why not in the 1978 book, but then in the 1980 book? Sadly, that is not discussed in this podcast.

Ed Wood, the director (not the film) is listed as the Worst Director of All Time.

Troy Harkin and David Clink will do a deep dive on Plan 9 from Outer Space, and will also look at the film Ed Wood, with special guest Shaindle Minuk (see author photo & bio below).

Troy and David have also uncovered the first 8 plans, and will reveal these in this podcast, and Shaindle will let us know what Plan 10 was.

Also, on this podcast, Dream Casting and OOTB (Out-of-the-box) Casting, for 9 of the Plan 9 cast.

Shaindle Minuk

Shaindle Minuk is a Builds Artist for animation and has been working in the TV and film industries for decades in various capacities, such as Described Video scriptwriter and Continuity and Spotting Lists (CCSL), to name just a few.

Shaindle is also the editor and co-founder of, which hosts some of the many comics and graphic novels Shaindle has created over the years, alongside humourous features such as “Found Objects” (in which Shain showcases her vast collection of creepy, unappealing ceramic animal figurines and toys) and the popular “Stupid Comics”, which provides in-depth commentary on, well, stupid comics.

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